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Editor's note: some of this information was found to be wrong, I would
like to thank the person who cleared this up.
'Intellectual Property'... what meaningless words. They are better known
as Trademarks ™, Registered Trademarks ®, Patents, and Copyrights ©.
On the internet these lose all meaning. For example.. how
many pages are actually registered with the US Copyright Board? About 0.
Yet nearly every page has a copyright notice on them. please see
'Intellectual Property part.3' for some clear
ups. This is very important.
When we place things on the internet, we put them up for other people.
What point would there be if this wasn't so? An international hard drive?
So when we place items online, we should expect them to be used by other
people. If we place files online, we should expect to see them pop up
on somebody else's site.
other coded material onto one's homepage without giving credit and/or
getting permission from the originator. But some people think that you
shouldn't use somebody's file archive as your own.. even if you transfer
all files to your own server. If you don't, I would agree, with them, but
file archives cannot be one's 'Intellectual Property'. Especially so when
the files were originally collected from many sources anyway. I wouldn't
care if somebody downloaded all of Patent Pending's archives and used them
as their own, as long as the HTML was their own, and not mine.
Basically, "Everybody has lots of different files, then somebody comes
along a compiles all of the files, then others come a use the file
compiliation." This is a basic way of the internet. If it were not so,
files would be spread all over the internet, making it a incredibly
terrible place to find what you want.
But apparently not everybody thinks this as Deezer and I found out
yesterday. The following comes from our own SNES SRM archive index
SNES SaveRAM Status (March 15, 1998)
Well, to start, I received the following e-mail today (name left
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:37:31 -0500
To: email@example.com, firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: ur site kix ass!
i'd like to know what exactly it is that you think you're doing.
it took me a whole year to get all my Snes SRM files...
oh..and don't even think about saying that u didn't steal my SaveRAM
files. those contributors are the same people that uploaded the same
SRMs that I had a year ago.
frankly, i'm very pissed off at u for stealing my SRMs, but i'll give
you 1 day to delete all of the SRMs and the page altogether. go ahead
and steal ZST and S9X files from otheer sites, but you're not gonna
steal my SRMs. is that clear, sir?
i hope it is.
please delete them now.
This is what Deezer had already placed up (obviously pissed):
In a profanity-riddled e-mail, someone (who doesn't seem to believe in
capitalization) asked me to remove "his" SRMs. This person will remain
If you want an alternative download site, check out the
SRM Pit. Good day.
What's even more peculiar about this is that the SRM Pit claims that we
copied them (which we didn't), yet the other site says that SRM Pit copied
them. Anyway what I thought about this matter can be summed up in my
reply to Deezer concerning this matter.
Subject: Big Shit w/ SRMs..
Umm.. well. OK, you read this so tell me what you think.. This is what I
have to say about it:
1. Not ALL of the files came from his archive.
2. If they are public on the net, we have every right to post them. _It is
3. He obviously did not create those (or most anyway) SRMs, so he has no
right to tell us to take them down
4. He IS credited on the Credits page and perhaps should be put on the SRM
5. He has no right to tell us to delete the page either that YOU created,
6. Fuck, if we have to, lets contact the contributors themselves.
7. It's up to you, but I say that we not take them down. What's he going
to do about it anyway? If you don't want things 'stolen', don't put them
up, and kiss up to your local CDA rep... hehehe
BTW, Why was the Subject named "Ur site kix ass!" ? LoL
So that leaves it at the present status. We took the files from the other
archive to make them easily accessable to all who came here. I've decided
to take the archive down, for now until I get support of the actual SRM
contributors. I have removed his site link from the Special Thanx, and it
will not appear on this site again. All previous SRMs can be acquired from
the SRM Pit, for now. We just might decide to put them up anyway because
of the seven reasons listed in my e-mail. Input welcomed. Stay tuned
because things may change very quickly. --=MEGAß¥TE
Well for one, how dare he
claim that we stole files if he placed them on a public archive site AND
the files were contributed by different people, not himself. (which is
what I said in a long form in my reply to Deezer) One thing I just noticed
in this e-mail is that he orders us to remove our OWN HTML off of there.
We certainly will NOT. Also the 'owner' of this archive has the nerve to
put this on his site:
- *Note* I've now added a copyright notice on the bottom of my site...so
anyone who's found stealing my HTML source will be in big trouble
now...trouble with the law, that is.
OK, he JUST 2 days ago added any copyright notice.
this online copyright notices mean jack in the real world of copyrights.
He did not apply anywhere to get it.. If he doesn't want anybody
using 'his' SRMs then he shouldn't have a public archive. This whole
matter has pissed both Deezer and I off about the way some people are
online. We haven't released the name, e-mail addy, or page addy, of this
person, but if we get any other harrassments, we are prepared to do so.
It's people like this who make emulation degrade. We need to remember
a few of Jeremy Chadwick (Y0SHi)'s quotes about the 'SNES emulator wars'
(from Super Nintendo Emulation Ego 97.10.23):
'...HUNDREDS (if not thousands) of people have forgotten the one
fundamental aspect to emulation which is at no less than the apex of it
To have fun.'
'...you actually state that you consider the emulation scene a
That statement is what brought a small tear, rolling down the side of my
Too many people think of emulation as a 'market' instead of 'having fun'.
If somebody links to another site's files, that is wrong because it uses up
bandwidth of the host server. But actually trying to own separate file
archives to create a monopoly (like Microsoft?) is wrong. I distincly
separate them so you won't get the wrong idea. So many people try to
take 'bad' meanings out of 'good' words.
Emulation will die if it continues like it does.
Ruins and Patent Pending are two of the only good 'fun loving' sites
left in my opinion. Don't let them be the last.
March 16, 1998; amended March 17, 1998